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For now, use a stiffer (RR) spring with a high Panhard bar mounted on the right side for consistency. 0000009043 00000 n 0000035000 00000 n 0000037340 00000 n Raise the rear ride height one more inch, move weight up and to the right in the car, and soften all of the shocks. 0000066169 00000 n 0000077225 00000 n 0000015768 00000 n Loomis' chassis is also not the freshest off the jig. 0000086670 00000 n BRB1. 0000069530 00000 n Tire selection should include a little more siping to help dissipate heat, as the tires will begin to spin slightly coming off the corners. 0000075372 00000 n 0000075579 00000 n We could continue to move weight up and to the right in the car to raise the CG about 1 inch and further decrease the left-side weight percentage. Small gains in mechanical grip can provide substantial gains in lap times). 4 309 0000006476 00000 n 0000133470 00000 n To increase forward bite you can raise the upper bars on both sides of the car next to the frame. One adjustment that helps turn exit without affecting the rest of the turn too badly is the right-front spring (although it will affect turn entry some). 0000016580 00000 n xref 4 0 obj <> endobj 0000028105 00000 n 0000078272 00000 n 0000064065 00000 n There are definitely others, and some may work better for you. 0000053702 00000 n 0000025519 00000 n 0000026941 00000 n 0000031281 00000 n 0000021968 00000 n 0000099345 00000 n 0000048733 00000 n Run a higher pressure in all of the tires. 0000059107 00000 n left rear drop rail set up stand. 1/4 inch out (tracks 1/2-mile or bigger) 0000064296 00000 n 0000008385 00000 n 100% poly stretch shell bonde 2021 Teo Pro CarWinter Knit Hat One Size Fits All! 0000047466 00000 n 0000073652 00000 n It can be tempting to throw a lot at your car at once. 0000053262 00000 n mfg: bicknell racing products . Raise the moveable weight up and to the right side as much as possible for a 50-50 percent side-to-side weight distribution. 0000023021 00000 n A typical setup might be: LF = 400; RF = 450; LR = 225 (400 pounds swing arm); RR = 275 (500 pounds swing arm); 56 percent left-side weight; Panhard bar at 11 inches left and 12 inches right, mounted to the right side of the chassis; and no front Ackermann with zero rear steer. 0000060959 00000 n 4 309 Keep the weight low and to the left, and use tires with wide grooving to release the wet mud easily. "I started from ground zero when I got back into racing," Loomis says. Time is a factor and we want to make positive changes that can be accomplished in a short period of time. LM: It is time to go a little more radical in the setup. 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Moving the rear ballast up if the car is tight anywhere in the turn and down if it is loose. 0000070993 00000 n Adjustments For Forward Bite 0000034106 00000 n 0000027224 00000 n The class seems like it has been around forever, and it's still going strong all across the country because the general recipe keeps the cars simple, easy to work on and fix, and (relatively speaking) inexpensive. I'm not saying everybody has to go and call my guy, but when you are getting into a class and buying a car, the level of customer service he offers after the purchase is definitely something that you should consider.". 0000067879 00000 n Aluminum Lightweight Design It means he may be a little bit down on power compared to those racing with a built motor, but the setup adjustments still work the same way. 0000040979 00000 n brp1553. 0000014377 00000 n 0000052667 00000 n What makes these various conditions so hard on our setups is that the g-forces are changing along with the declining availability of grip as the track begins to dry out and go slick. 0000060188 00000 n Gallery. 0000024239 00000 n 0000022908 00000 n 0000081155 00000 n 0000041451 00000 n 0000077728 00000 n If we had nothing to learn, we may as well go golfing-not. 0000062598 00000 n 0000013811 00000 n 0000024683 00000 n On the right front try a shock with more rebound and on the left rear, switch to one with more compression. 0000024352 00000 n Evening up the front springs will help the car turn, and softening the RR spring, lowering the moment center, and raising the CG will provide better bite as the track dries out. Teo Fabrications, Teo Pro Car, Or Just Teo. 0000054728 00000 n In 2009, he won the track championship at Wytheville (Va.) Raceway. Teo Elite Chassis Roll Cart Interestingly, Loomis' day job is the shop manager for Michael Waltrip Racing's Nationwide Series race shop. Slots for Ease of Measure, Teo 2021 Elite Retro Tee Racers of all classes are getting smarter by the year, and getting to the front is a matter of staying on top of the most current technology. 0000076680 00000 n 0000028989 00000 n HS: With the track going to full dry and slick conditions, we need to get more radical in our setup. With that said, we will make an assumption that your front end geometry is good to go. 0000087646 00000 n 0000039420 00000 n 0000046709 00000 n 0000070008 00000 n 0000067665 00000 n Maximizing axle wrap will make it more difficult for the tire to break traction on acceleration, whether its on corner exit or on restarts. 0000033358 00000 n 0000074857 00000 n 0000051844 00000 n 0000086827 00000 n 0000033211 00000 n 0000017176 00000 n 0000000016 00000 n 0000015017 00000 n 0000020532 00000 n 0000032028 00000 n Decrease the air pressure all around for more footprint area, and groove the tires for the most side bite with more grooves and a limited number of siping cuts. Raise the Panhard bar by 1 inch to 13 inches left and 9 inches right. 0000030821 00000 n If you have a choice, run tires with large grooves such as the all-terrain types for mud and snow. 0000017011 00000 n 0000071043 00000 n 0000014895 00000 n 0000030657 00000 n 0000077456 00000 n 0000064349 00000 n 0000066675 00000 n 0000056047 00000 n 0000023303 00000 n We might want to anticipate the dry and slicker conditions coming now for lack of time later. 0000035595 00000 n 0000013973 00000 n 0000071582 00000 n The following are just a few of the handling adjustments Loomis recommends for specific situations and has noticed other racers using the most. Torque Arm Slider Setup page30 Torsion Bar Pre-Load Instructions page19 716-285-7502 OP#2 administrator@bicknellracingproducts.com Monday-Thursday: 8:30am - 5:30pm Friday: 8:30am - 4:30pm Saturday: 9am - 12pm (OPEN SATURDAY ALL YEAR) 905- 685-4291 OP#3 administrator@bicknellracingproducts.com Monday - Thursday: 8am - 5:30pm Friday: 8:00am - 5:00pm 0000055343 00000 n Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of 0000025238 00000 n "A gentleman by the name of Joel Smith is the BMS representative at Close Racing Supply, and it has been his knowledge and willingness to work with me that has been invaluable. 0000065345 00000 n The greater the diameter split between the left & right axles, the more loose the effect is on throttle. 0000087411 00000 n Parts list and dyno sheet included. 0000053161 00000 n A simple change that will affect handling in the center of the turn without compromising a lot of other setups is the height of the rear ballast. 0000065627 00000 n 0000020359 00000 n Adjustment For Turn Exit 0000042188 00000 n But be careful with this adjustment because it can also make you too tight getting into the turn. 0000065125 00000 n This is simple to understand because the more weight you put on a tire the more traction you will have. 0000076193 00000 n 0000074694 00000 n left front set up stand 4. Copyright 2005-2023 312 0 obj<>stream One word of caution here: Don't. It is, in fact, a few years old. The air pressure must come down some, but do not run soft on air at this point. The moisture is evaporating off the first inch of material, and there will be less available grip without the surface becoming overly slick. The changes won't be big, but they can definitely be enough to change the way your car handles. Rear: 1/2-1 inch, Springs (Chevelle Front Clip) This works because lowering the front of the pull bar (without adjusting the length) will move the pinion angle on the front end down, which can increase traction. We must get radical now, but not to the point of jacking the LF corner of the car off the ground. 0000062210 00000 n The greater the diameter split between the left & right axles, the more "loose" the effect is "on throttle". 0000021857 00000 n 0000021134 00000 n 0000063040 00000 n Adjustments For Turn Entry 0000042399 00000 n Low profile tyres work at lesser slip angles. Will sell complete or separate. 0000033655 00000 n 0000031748 00000 n 0000061173 00000 n 0000077670 00000 n 0000013430 00000 n Once your car hits the black groove, it will grip and you can accelerate off from the passed car. Just be careful to always make one handling change at a time because as a rule, every change has secondary effects beyond the problem you are trying to address. 0000048502 00000 n 0000051631 00000 n .more Dislike Share Tommy Brandon 6.37K. The tires can be changed to more of a street performance tread with slightly lower pressures. 0000075962 00000 n 0000022018 00000 n What this means is that BMS has already worked out the geometry issues in the front so you can hit the ground running. 0000066383 00000 n We will still need to drive the car straight and try not to soften the right-side springs too much yet. Forward bite is slightly reduced to a degree (from Option #1), but the axle diameters here still remain much thinner than standard axles sold which will allow for axle wrap-up and increased forward bite over any standard diameter axles. <<4D97E536ECF89D40A1043D599CFB9229>]>> If you are working to perfect your setup, a good rule of thumb is to always start at the beginning of the turn and work your way through. 3/8 inch out (tracks 3/8-mile or smaller). We will need to change to tires that are harder, with less gap and more surface rubber. mfg: bicknell racing products . 0000082916 00000 n 0000051191 00000 n 0000023909 00000 n We won't change the setup at this point in time, but the driver will need to think more about throttle control coming off the corners to prevent wheel spin. By clicking All Cookies you agree to our Cookie Policy, it helps us better understand how the site is used and give you the best experience. 0000030792 00000 n 0000072853 00000 n You can also lengthen the right-side wheelbase in increments of 1/4-inch. 0000037105 00000 n As the car rotates, it develops an aero force that acts like added traction. 0000056819 00000 n 0000081756 00000 n 0000051089 00000 n 0000049347 00000 n 0000074103 00000 n 0000061991 00000 n Over 300 people packed the factory location in St. Hoosier Weekly Racing Update - May 23, 2022. HS: When the track turns black, the surface has become hard with very little loose material. 0000070343 00000 n Dry, a condition in which the top layer is now drying out and losing material in the form of sand: 0.9 to 1.1 g's (loss of grip is now getting substantial, and the car will not turn well or get bite off the corners. 0000069299 00000 n 0000048783 00000 n 0000042785 00000 n 0000069199 00000 n 0000035755 00000 n At the shop the next week, return your car to your baseline setup and check how much the settings have changed. 0000054508 00000 n 0000027787 00000 n Our intent was to provide some thoughts on making changes to the basic setup that might improve the car and make each phase better. They are more like asphalt anyway, and a team racing a dirt car on those tracks would do well to set up their cars more closely to an asphalt car setup. RacingJunk, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. 0000017962 00000 n 0000146940 00000 n 0000039800 00000 n 0000040927 00000 n 0000028950 00000 n 0000061760 00000 n 0000022412 00000 n fZ(L4&e,80F `uR Y/71xhEfH U(faXA`Z'(. 0000077247 00000 n 0000060750 00000 n 0000022859 00000 n It is our most commonly used axle combination. Shop Racing's Top Brands All in One Place, Teo Pro Car Mesh Flex Hat Available in S/M , L/XL. 0000077016 00000 n If you have your car working properly from turn entry through the center, you often will have few problems on turn exit that a gentle right foot can't handle. It's what racing is all about and it's all fun. 0000017798 00000 n 0000007454 00000 n But even though they may be rated as the same size, when pumped up they can have quite different characteristics. 0000056588 00000 n 0000030468 00000 n 0000016218 00000 n 0000013517 00000 n 0000068968 00000 n 0000032915 00000 n 4 0 obj <> endobj 0000078294 00000 n Also has extra parts included ! From body and chassis parts to gaskets, mounts, shocks, and springs, Bicknell Racing Products manufactures the components you need to set up or modify your car as you aim for the victory lane. 0000069719 00000 n 0000043827 00000 n 0000057033 00000 n 0000068686 00000 n Finally, you can also increase forward bite by increasing your rear weight percentage. 0000018075 00000 n In short, they will be all over the track. 0000079339 00000 n 0000046206 00000 n 0000015482 00000 n If your car is tight on turn entry you have several good options. Under these conditions, teams using softer RR springs with Panhard bars high on the left side and low on the right side and with plenty of rear steer will find trouble. This option is our maximum recommended offset between the left & right side axle diameters to allow for on throttle turn like that of adding tire stagger. Based on the IMCA-style Mods, Dirt Modified racing is one of the more inexpensive ways to get into full-scale circle track racing. From then on, unless it is watered again, the track will begin to dry out and go through several phases of moisture content. The middle of the turn is the area where the driver isn't hard on the throttle and is trying to get the car to rotate. CircleTrackSupply specializes in motor sports racing, circle track parts, tools for the shop and at the track on race day, dirt track parts, Imca, Late Model Stock Car, ASA, Hooters Pro Cup, NASCAR Weekly Racing Series, Busch East, Grand National, drag ra 0000041210 00000 n LR: 12 0000036342 00000 n 0000065960 00000 n 0000083620 00000 n 0000035310 00000 n 0000060419 00000 n 0000019367 00000 n We can start moving weight over to the right side to provide a lower left-side weight of 52-54 percent. 0000018394 00000 n 0000080923 00000 n 0000086409 00000 n 0000028510 00000 n Not because the chassis is anything magic, although it is a good chassis, but because of the knowledge that goes with it.". 0000027503 00000 n 0000043596 00000 n Loomis says he plans to replace it eventually but it is still working so well for him that he hates to get rid of it. 0000080067 00000 n 0000025566 00000 n We will now soften the LF spring to a 750, the RF spring to a 650, the RR spring to a 150, and move all of the moveable weight to the right side and higher up. 0000020799 00000 n Murchison , TX . If you have baselined your setup with a specific tire and bolt on a different brand, you probably will find things are a bit different. 0000042997 00000 n 0000043615 00000 n 0000022130 00000 n 0000026125 00000 n LF: 14 0000054739 00000 n 0000045307 00000 n The key, again, is to be sure to make changes based on your track conditions related to your type of car. By clicking "Default Cookies" you agree to store cookies on your device that technically necessary for the operation of a website. LF = 350; RF = 325; LR = 200 (350 pounds swing arm); RR = 175 (325 pounds swing arm). 0000051400 00000 n Even if the handling problem on turn exit feels worse than any problem you have on turn entry, never work backwards. 0000057647 00000 n 0000058070 00000 n Left: 52-52.5 North Liberty, IN. 2006 Set-Up and Technical Guide Phone: (585) 352-5590 Fax: (585) 352-5593 130 Buell Road Rochester, NY 14624 Asphalt Modified Set-Up & Technical Guide w w w.troyerracecars.com 0000078754 00000 n 0000023634 00000 n 0000064683 00000 n 0000074154 00000 n The car should enter, go through the middle, and come off the corners going straight ahead and balanced in the overall setup. 0000020252 00000 n 0000063641 00000 n 0000044412 00000 n brp9706. 0000078961 00000 n .0. When you get to the track and find you need to make adjustments to dial in the handling, make them one at a time and test them on the track before adding another. 0000059907 00000 n The "slide job" works well here because as you go under a car coming into the corner, you pass and inevitably slide in front of the passed car. 0000047484 00000 n The track has now dried up and the black is mostly gone. 0000040481 00000 n 0000019758 00000 n 0000035890 00000 n 0000072644 00000 n Increase the rear steer by changing the angles of the left trailing arm. If the track changes banking with more angle on the high side, then passing can be done on the outside more easily than down low if the car is handling well. A typical setup might be: LF = 350; RF = 375; LR = 175 (325 pounds swing arm), RR = 225 (400 swing arm); 56 percent left-side weight; Panhard bar at 11 inches left and 12 inches right; and no front Ackermann with zero rear steer. 0000020200 00000 n 0000029392 00000 n One of the key features of what we'll call the IMCA-style Dirt Modified is the stock front clip. 0000064914 00000 n 0000037791 00000 n 0000045538 00000 n 0000094497 00000 n 0000016524 00000 n 0000014548 00000 n 0000022461 00000 n The changes will be realistic and will not involve cutting or welding the chassis. 0000046656 00000 n 0000060728 00000 n 0000040763 00000 n 0000000016 00000 n 0000043228 00000 n Throughout an event, most dirt tracks change surface characteristics, some in a dramatic way. 0000119134 00000 n 0000044970 00000 n 0000057625 00000 n 0000011614 00000 n 0000048311 00000 n 4. Forward bite is the ability of your race car to accelerate without spinning the rear tires. 0000059717 00000 n 0000049821 00000 n %PDF-1.6 % We can see how it is possible to experience a high 1.7 g's all the way down to a very low 0.7 g's in a single day. 0000080230 00000 n 0000027666 00000 n 0000059924 00000 n 0000082683 00000 n 0000017461 00000 n 0000059156 00000 n This option is our maximum recommended offset between the left & right side axle diameters to allow for "on throttle" turn like that of adding tire stagger. The second is a tire temperature sheet for logging tire temperature after practice sessions. 0000054530 00000 n 0000044775 00000 n 0000050858 00000 n 0000021240 00000 n $1. LF: 2-4 degrees positive We call it the IMCA-style Dirt Mod because that's the sanctioning body that is most widely known for these cars, and probably sanctions more races at this level than anyone else, but numerous racing organizations and tracks host this style of racing, so we're definitely not talking specifically about IMCA alone. 0000035445 00000 n "Joel has so many cars out there that are racing on so many tracks, he's able to gather more information in a single weekend than a team can in several years' worth of racing. 0000049769 00000 n was brp1537. The most difficult tracks are the ones in which the type of dirt or clay needs a lot of moisture in order for the track crew to be able to groom the track. The RR spring should change to a 200-pound (rated) spring or pull one rubber out. 0000067828 00000 n Best Suited Track Type: Starts heavy or tacky and gets more dry-slick through the night. 0000008387 00000 n 0000062829 00000 n Now softer tires can be used with some siping. 0000030333 00000 n 0 0000063538 00000 n 0000016900 00000 n We also offer many top brands in high performance race car parts, shock absorbers and suspension components for Dirt Modified and Circle Track Racing. 0000015646 00000 n This style of dirt racing vehicle is manufactured for the appropriate series classification, often with a coil-over front suspension, and either a full tube chassis or use of a stock car frame as part of the chassis. 0000038008 00000 n 0000029110 00000 n 0000028389 00000 n 0000069739 00000 n We could raise the rear ride height an inch or so to be ready if the track begins to dry out some and affect bite off the corner. 0000056379 00000 n Don't Stack Adjustments left front set up stand 4.125" mfg: bicknell racing products. 5. 0000058893 00000 n Here is a 2012 Teo Pro Car tall cage seat back roller. Make sure your car is correct for front geometry issues. Every one is designed we usually carry 5 to 15 of these engines in stock to choose from or we can custom build you an engine to your specs in Have a new QA1 7 inch 5Q series steel shock, part #5Q74-10. 0000076391 00000 n We just received a double shipment of Vogtland 225#, 16 x 5 inch rear Hughes modified CNC engine dyno at 687 hp. 0000043384 00000 n 0000034420 00000 n You often will find that fixing your handling problem on turn entry will reduce the severity of the problems you are experiencing on turn exit. Loomis recommends avoiding the temptation to move the ballast weight back behind the rear axle as this can create an unpredictable pendulum effect. 0000072622 00000 n 0000026571 00000 n 0000014257 00000 n Raise the rear ride height another inch. the RacingJunk.com. 0000068917 00000 n 0000052436 00000 n 0000079290 00000 n details. Increase the Ackermann to 1 degree in 15 degrees of steering. 0000021079 00000 n 0000010587 00000 n Late Model (LM): A similar situation would apply to the LM car. So we thought we'd share his baseline setup. 0000038455 00000 n Black slick, a condition in which the track still has enough moisture to keep the material packed, but has hardened and is taking rubber: 1.1 to 1.3 g's (becoming difficult entering and turning in the middle of the turns). Adjustments For Middle Of Turn Powdercoated Matte Black Frame, Body, Bumpers, Rub Rails 0000023747 00000 n 0000038690 00000 n Bicknell Racing Products provides the winning edge in the racing industry. The idea here is to use the added compression on the left rear to hold that corner up and the rebound on the right front to force that right-front tire down and help increase traction on the front of the car. 0000066781 00000 n Opinions will vary on these topics. 0000019210 00000 n 0000051894 00000 n That is probably why rear steer (left tire forward) is sometimes so helpful. The LF spring = 375; RF = 350; LR spring = 185; and RR spring = 175. This was a great way to do the heats and spread them out giving drivers and teams plenty of time to work on there cars between racers . 0000007456 00000 n 0000058662 00000 n 0000038526 00000 n 0000063872 00000 n Loomis' advice is to always return to your baseline setup each week. <<8CF03EBAA6030145B47CA4E7DC94E76A>]>> 0000050593 00000 n This options best captures a bit of axle wrap (Forward Bite) with the thinner overall axle diameters & throttle turn (the tire stagger effect) that comes with different left-to-right axle diameters. Increasing tire pressure will help a tight condition all the way through the turn while decreasing the pressure by a half pound or so will help a loose condition. Take a little sneak peek with us as we go behind the scenes with Bicknell Racing Products in St. Catherines, OntarioOff Track TV: https://www.offtracktv.com/. Raise the rear ride height one more inch, move weight up and to the right in the car, and soften all of the shocks . 0000047748 00000 n we usually carry 5 to 15 of these engines in stock to choose from or we can custom build you an engine to your specs in. Change the RF spring to a 750-pound spring and the RR to a 175-pound spring. 0000021685 00000 n RF: 4-6 degrees positive, Camber 0000033493 00000 n 0000026891 00000 n Box 550 Florida, NY 10921 0000066152 00000 n 0000057084 00000 n To run a single setup throughout the day is not going to get the job done in this day and age. 0000053471 00000 n Dropped Center Teo Aluminum Toe Plate Set Hardened and more packed as the surface begins to dry out: 1.3 to 1.5 g's (still good corner speed while losing a little grip off the corner). 0000119110 00000 n 0000023190 00000 n 0000046940 00000 n 0000043983 00000 n 0000009045 00000 n We will soften the RR spring and the front springs. 0000085431 00000 n Minus Motor/shocks/trans/seat This is a very good straight car !! Best Suited Track Type: Dry-Slick. 0000047697 00000 n Instead, try to get a handle on how the car changes as the fuel burns off and compensate for that. 0000063023 00000 n 0000048289 00000 n . 0000146705 00000 n 0000071604 00000 n 0000048520 00000 n 0000086530 00000 n 0000016414 00000 n 0000048080 00000 n 0000049325 00000 n Thu-Fri 8:30am-5pm Although the rest of the car can be constructed from scratch from steel tubing, the front clip,.
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