Not to put too fine a point on an excellent review but the Preacher killed Marshal Stockburn at the end. Chat with us; Phone us at (616) 432-6640 . 1873 Rifle Manual. Some of it justifiedhowever if you know the reason then it's some what understandable. It's not my "go to" rifle, (that is an AWA Lightning) but now that it's been worked on, it's a nice one. The 12 month average price is $290.50 new and $284.87 used. Armi San Marco first started making a Colt 1873 replica in the middle 1980s. The other was a blued adjustable-sight Old Army that was just sheer round-ball hilarious to shoot. Armi San Marco manufacturer overview But, since he doesn't shoot "cowboy" any more it's part of my backup pair to my main Colt guns). Model: 1858. Armi San Marco, copy of Remington Model 1858 Grips show some 36 Caliber; 90% blue, very good bore, very good grips, 7.5'' barrel, Navy Arms Model 1861 Navy six shot .36 caliber black powder revolver, made by Uberti. Remington 1858 DO use a stout load. I have been told of caps jamming up a Remington Revolver, but in over Twenty Years of shooting Remingtons, have not had a single jam caused by a cap! Black powder works best when it is compressed. Armi San Marco took some bad rep. toward the end of the Companys run. Gun Review: 1858 Remington Max load? I have been cleaning black powder revolvers for almost 50 years. 1899. Plain walnut grips. Remington 1858 Armi San Marco Any gun made before Jan 1 1999 i is an antique gun, and requires no involvement of an FFL holder. But that same design made the Remington more robust than the Colts and also gave the advantage of rapid cylinder swapping. This may a bit late, but I just got here. But Civil War rifled muskets were lethal out to 300, so I have to question such a claim. Theyre fun guns to mess with, but understand the maintenance requirements before spending the money on one. He then shoots it. CYLINDER, BARREL AND LOADING ASSEMBLY IS BARE METAL. I bought a pietta model 1858 used and still havent fired it yet. A pietta .36 target sighted Remington 1858 was a beautiful pistol but I could not get it to shoot accurately. Brass (frame) is kinda pretty but Steel much stronger and more durable. Thanks Dan. Manuals & Instructions It was stiff, clunky, and in the words of a couple of different pards, "painful to watch" me trying to use it. Jim, you mentioned the Ruger Old Army , 44 cal. WebDescription: Remington Model 1858 New Model Army Revolver, .44 caliber. Eventually, the design inspired the 1875 Remington, a true metallic cartridge revolver, but one that clearly shows the influences from the 1858. As for the black powder, read the manual, page 10 in mine. Put the caps in the back and shoot. Pour boiling water down the barrel, than put a couple of dry patches down there, and your bore will be like the detergent advert! Great article. Bluing shows wear and scratches overall with a turn ring and wear to the notches on the cylinder. Bullshit!!! It would sure be cool to see a review of the Colt competitors1858 Remington Cap and ball -drop safety-Hammer - Z52778, A. Uberti & C. Cattleman 1873 I would advise ANYONE beginning Black Powder Revolver Shooting, do NOT ever buy the Colt Style Guns, and steer WELL AWAY, from any Cap &Ball Revolver that has a Brass Frame! ASM 1858 1863 pocket Web44 Caliber; very good+ bore, good grips, 7.75'' barrel, Pietta .44 caliber Remington 1858 style six shot black powder revolver in nickel plate finish. All three of my BP weapons took the same size cap. It is meat harvesting, pure and simple. The same dimensional differences for width, etc will occur with the triggerguard and backstrap at the frame, but the screw pattern is always right on. WebArmi San Marco ASM 2nd Model Dragoon ASM 1847 Walker ASM 1849 Pocket ASM 1849 Wells Fargo ASM 1858 1863 pocket ASM 1860 Army ASM 1861 Navy ASM 1862 1849 Wells Fargo ASM 1873 Single Action ASM 1892 Categories Armi San Marco Beretta Pedersoli Uberti Pietta Armi Sport [Chiappa] IAB [Pedretti] Sharps KIRST .44 Caliber 8in Blued Octagonal Barrel Brass Guard Walnut Grip Steel Frame Top Strap/Post Sights Overall Length: 14.5in Weighs: 2.75 pounds Model: FR18582 WHY CUSTOMERS CHOSE THIS ITEM Specifications Questions & armi san marco A nice write-up and while it may be legal to take deer with the load described I would note that said load has less power than the 44-40 out of a m-92 carbine, a close range proposition to be sure. It could definitely be loaded to deer-hunting levels but I just used it to punch large holes in an old oil drum we left against the sand bank at the quarry. The reason is that .44 is the muzzle diameter. I purchased it new from EMF in 1986. Oil finished walnut stock with 44 BP; 97% blue, good bore, good grips, 7.5'' barrel, Made in Italy. Lock functions well, trigger 44 Caliber; 96% blue, very good bore, very good grips, 7.5'' barrel, Pietta 1851 Navy .44 caliber black powder 6 shot revolver. Check out our forum: Bore and chambers in very good+ $395.00 Add to Cart Compare Pietta Remington Percussion - C55996 I have no idea how many guns Ive owned since my first .22 at the age of 12 but in the most fun category I could narrow it down to two. WOW , thanks for the history , I do see parts ,lighter springs even cylinders for these guns BUT not with the ASM manufacture ,parts are crossed to gun type like "1851 navy" ,would one say theres a strong chance they would work in ASM brand "1851 navy" ? Dont touch it unless the gun is pointing in a safe direction cause there is is no transfer bar. This was sold and moved to Marietta, OH., and then, in around 1973, was sold to Navy Arms. True for the 1873 and any other revolver deaigned to fire cartridges. Armi San Marco was a family owned gun maker in Brescia, Italy. PS: if you want to do more target shooting, but find yourself having to sell your wife, EAA (European/American Arms (Germany) makes some beautiful peacemakers replicas in everything from 44 mag to 22 LR (the latter comes with a second cylinder for the robust little 22 magnum). He examined the gun and proclaimed it one of the good ones and made me a really good offer that I applied to a like new in box NMV. Modern Reproduction CASE HARDENED RECEIVER. Fine quality pistol, exhibits high standards of I just purchased an ASM replica of a 1858 Remington 44 and was wondering if anyone had any information about it. Model: 1858. -drop safety-Hammer - Z52747, Lussignoli Renzo W. Moore/ London Reproduction - C53214, A. Uberti & C. Mod.1875 Army The heavier loads are a bitch on my wrists so Ido plinking at about 20 grains. Definitely a 50-yard whitetail gun. To add to the confusion Chiappa did purchase the 92 rifle tooling and left over parts from ASM. I hated to see my 1858 lose the battle, but it was by far the coolest looking piece in the flick in its spotless mickel plate with no sign of holster wear or powdwer burns. Original blued finish, case colored frame, brass trigger guard and backstrap. THE BORE IS 45 Caliber; 97% blue, good bore, excellent grips, 10'' barrel, ITALIAN REPRODUCTION OF A "W.MOORE-LONDON" SINGLE SHOT CAP & BALL PISTOL IN VERY GOOD OVERALL CONDITION. 1858 remington by armi san marco WOODEN STOCK IS VERY GOOD WITH LIGHT HANDLING WEAR 36 Caliber; 80% blue, very good bore, very good grips, 8'' barrel, REPRODUCTION NEW MODEL NAVY REVOLVER IN GOOD CONDITION.. I have done extensive testing of Black Powder guns and have a webpage with my collected Energy Data here: http://poconoshooting.com/blackpowderballistics.html. Youre reloaded. My 1858 is an Uberti model previously owned by a North-South Skirmish Association member. BORE IS VERY GOOD WITH SHARP RIFLING. Bore inn very good condition showing some light surface corrosion. Exc condition, appears unfired. Anyone have any experience with hunting large animals with cap and ball guns? It definitely seems that the makers will do as much quality control as is expected by the importer. In the .44 version, each of the six chambers can hold up to 40 grains of black powder. Changes were made in the production guns to make sure they could not be passed off as an original. It is considered a part and can be ordered through the mail. Armi San Marco I lowered my ball size from .454 to 451 (pietta) and dropped my charge from 30 to 20 grains. A.S.M Remington 1858 WebArmi San Marco ASM 2nd Model Dragoon ASM 1847 Walker ASM 1849 Pocket ASM 1849 Wells Fargo ASM 1858 1863 pocket ASM 1860 Army ASM 1861 Navy ASM 1862 1849 Wells Fargo ASM 1873 Single Action ASM 1892 Categories Armi San Marco Beretta Pedersoli Uberti Pietta Armi Sport [Chiappa] IAB [Pedretti] Sharps KIRST Like this guy. The used value of an ARMI SAN MARCO pistol has fallen ($12.42) It ensures that every round fires the same without pushing the ball too deep into the cylinder. Actually. (not by much) sInce they use the .44 barrel boared for .22s, the strength is well past ridiculous, even for the .22 Magnum. I often find them employed at LGS and they are a good resource. Nope. I am very pleased with what i got. Nothing wrong with meat harvesting or game management, says a fellow Texan. WebAN ARMI SAN MARCO pistol is currently worth an average price of $286.19 new and $274.52 used . Keep both of these straight, and the possibility that someone (like me, maybe) just might make a mistake, so on your own, do some research on it , At first we never know which is which , but it doesnt take long to figure it out. I was told a few years back that the other gun makers in Italy approached them and requested that they work harder on the craftsmanship as they were giving the Italian gun makers a bad name. How interchangeable are Uberti gun parts My question is, How close to the Old Army is this Pietta 1858 New Army .44 cal? The only real lemon was an ASM. Although original 1858s were finished in a very uniform blue, I particularly like the color-case hardening on the frame and the plain-jane, oil-finished grips. That's your build date. All Armi San Marco black powder cap and ball and cartridge conversion models were discontinued in 2000. Yup means I cant sell a converted C&B without using an FFL. Click on the "Full Description" fore more info. Swapping barrels can involve fitting the arbor to the barrel sometimes. Allen then started Western Arms which became Allen Arms, and then to Cimarron. The Colts often did have short safety pins at the back of the cylinder which could be engaged with the notch in the hammer nose, to accomplish exactly the same thing however. They are two different Italian firearms manufacturing companies. 1885 Low Wall Manual. Also, ASM use forged frames instead of castings on many of their revolvers.Replica Arms of El Paso, TX was started by L.F. Allen. Ramrod present. Youre only hunting if you sharpen a stick and use it as a spear. Have fun. It could not be made to run. Finish in very good condition with some scratches and nicks. thereof. Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Black Powder replica. In 2004 I orderd a Uberti 1851 Colt part from the very back of the Brownells catalog the Uberti part fit better than the original, with both parts out side by side the Uberti had better finnish, the 'ASM' part had tool marks and general over all rough apperance (probibly why The front sight was okay, except that it was frequently made of brass, wich when polished by the inside of a holster, tended to reflect glare into the shooters eyes, but the rear sight was a crude notch, filed roughly into the tip of the hammer! Im 75, so I move a bit slower than earlier today. 1860 Henry Manual. Web1858 Remington, Richards Mason & Open Top Conversion Manual. The type of man who could sell Deep Freezers and electric Fans to Eskimos! Put some lube over the ball to prevent chain fire. To date I have only had two minor issues with it: - 1) the firing pin retainer had to tapped in a bit as dragged on the frame very mildly, local smith fixed that in 2 seconds. This is what the reg provides: The term antique firearm means any firearm (including any firearm with a matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of ignition system)manufactured in or before 1898. How interchangeable are Uberti gun parts I remember that ASM was sold to American Western Arms who only produces cartridge revolvers. I started out with 10 to 15 grains, then worked up. The greatest going away gift I ever got in my 25 years in the Army was the Uberti 1873 with my name and callsign engraved on the barrel that the guys in my battalion gave me when I left command. Do put grease in each chamber after loading. But on my wish-they-would-make list a 5-shot .50 Old Army designed for sabot bullets and 50-grain Pydrodex pellets. I am not convinced about black powder handguns for deer hunting. And they still shoot just as straight and true as the originals. THE BLUING IS NEAR FLAWLESS AS IS THE CASE COLORED FRAME AND HAMMER. WebAN ARMI SAN MARCO pistol is currently worth an average price of $286.19 new and $274.52 used . On a Remington 1858, all you have to do is flip down the loading lever, pull the cylinder pin forward, and ECCO! ASM attempted to revive its percussion revolvers with limited success and finally closed its doors several years back. I always chuckle when I clean it in the sink with soap and water. I have a pieta with aftermarket Tresso nipples that do not fit the standard Remington capstoo loose, but fit Dynamil Nobel caps perfectly. Anyone know of a cylinder made for it? Dear Mr. Nickel, I use the same 452s in my bps that my wife uses in her .45 acp both 452s with the ring shear it is still .450. Rolling Of course, only shoot from distances from which you know you make clean, ethical kills. The nature of the weapon makes no difference; one is just as deadly, and in the same way as the other. They now make a 92 rifles, but it does function better than the old ASM 92's. Fine review with everything that makes a gun review great: guns, history and guns. Estimated Price: $400 - $600. THE LOCK IS IN THE WHITE. armi san marco Once a year I strip them right down to the last screw, wipe the mixture of oil and black powder residue off them,(Never found any rust!) View cart for details. They make the guns for different companies and the workmanship is terrible. what ever happen to "army san marcos" guns Price Realized: Details Payment Terms Shipping. 1866 Rifle Manual. I loaded it to Piettas speck of 15 grains, and the ball didnt make it past the forcing cone. One of the knocks against the 1858 Remington is that the cylinder tends to bind on the cylinder pin as the pistol gets fouled, and Bore Butter, or even some Crisco, helps keep that cylinder turning smoothly all day long. Pew Poll: Gun Control Losing Steam, Money and Popularity, Gun Review: Smith & Wesson Model 317 Kit Gun .22LR Revolver, New From ShaloTek: P320 Compensated Slide, The 3 Most Important Handgun Shooting Stances to Learn, http://www.taylorsfirearms.com/blackpowder-revolvers/1851-1861-navy-collection/1851-navy-steel-36-5-octagonal-barrel-steel-case-hardened-frame-brass-backstrap-trigger-guard-model-002.html, Johnnie Roper (Gunslinger9378 on the 1858Remington.com Forum. Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Black Powder replica. .. when I first tried sass back in the nineties this brand was Quite popular .. now that Ive returned to sass after ten plus year, never here or see any thing , Just curious mostly as they been sit in in my safe for over ten years.. they were fun to shoot for someone who couldn't afford real guns like me STAN. -drop safety-Hammer- - Z52780, A. Uberti & C. 1872 Open Top I grew up watching all of the old western movies on TBS. I suggest going to the local gun shop and ask if there are any cowboy action shooters around. Had a cowboy smith smooth the internals so they dont chew each other up.ook mighty sweet in a pair of El Paso Saddlery crossdraw Slim Jims. By 1873 Rifle Manual. Stainless steel octagon barrel with drift adjustable front sight, elevation adjustable rear sight. Nicks a real tech wizard. Big thump, big cloud, and I could see the huge rounds hitting the berm when I was spotting through binoculars. Armi San Marco is still making guns and they are known for making guns with bad workmanship. And if both Buffalo Bill and Clint Eastwood liked it in different centuries, you know its got to be good. Blued finish, plain walnut grips. and practise with that heavy load! (#% or 40 grains.) 36 BP; excellent bore, excellent stock, 9.5'' barrel, Manufactured in Italy. She just a rolls out inna ya hand! Didn't Colt threaten to sue ASM because of they're use of a "pony" on the grip? Armi San Marco is still making guns and they are known for making guns with bad workmanship. Ive been thinking of getting one since I recently watched Pale Rider. THE BRIGHT BLUING IS EVEN THROUGHOUT. THE BRIGHT BLUING IS EVEN THROUGHOUT. And a .50 sabot over 100 grains of Pyrodex is a humane, instant-kill deer load out to 150 yards. This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. Gauge: 44 percussion. The firing pin broke on the 3 or 4th shot. In Iowa, muzzle-loading pistols of at least .44 caliber, with barrels at least four inches long and without shoulder stocks are legal for deer hunting. WebThat isn't going to be the case with the Italian replicas, but more often than not the answer is easily found stamped on the revolver. I am sure it will do for deer. Most folks shoot them with charges down in the 20-grain range. If you load it with 30 grains, you get about 200 ft-lbs energy. WebThe 1858 Remington New Army is both a beautiful collectors piece and a rugged side arm. Chiappa (I visited them too) it a totally different story, rather "big" factory. .44 Cal percussion. 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This article makes me want to buy more guns! Stamped on top of octagon barrel "1855 SPAIN". 921(a)(3), (a)(16). WebBuy a Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Replica Italian made .44 Remington 1858 Replica by manufacturer Armi San Marco. Rolling He sent it back twice because of some minor issues, but its a nice gun for ~$200. Used, grip strap wear and shows handling. This page was last updated: 04-Mar 00:33. Anyway it worked, never had a problem since. Recently heard a story about ASM, that they moved out of the big city to a smaller town in the country. Unless the revolvers were actualy made before Jan 1. Also, I would personally spend a small amount more and buy a steel frame pistol instead of a brass frame. The .44 ball over 35 grains is enough to kill a horse. The Colt type sighting was crude, to say the very least! . The Kirst conversion is named after probably the most famous cinematic example of the 1858 Remington rapid cylinder change, the final gunfight from Clint Eastwoods Pale Rider. The one who makes a career of it will begin to stick out like a sore thumb, before long just based on the volume of questionable facts he spouts. If you do this you dont need a wad. He took the gun back. Get an UpLula magazine loader. REcoil is essentially nonexistent. Exc condition, appears unfired. I also have an open top revolver and an 1873 rifle that are Uberti. Original blued finish and plain walnut grips. And you thought the New York reload was a modern invention? Or something like that. Pretty simple. Still have one that is now a back up. ARMI SAN MARCO -drop safety-Hammer- - Z52749, Lussignoli Renzo W.Parker/ London Reproduction - C53215, A. Uberti & C. 1872 Open Top Used, bore is dirty, grips are worn. These models have steel frames with German silver plated backstrap and trigger guard, inspectors cartouche on grip, and trade for approximately $20-$40 higher than standard Powered by Invision Community. Remington 1858 The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. RO11, Cowboy Mounted Shooting, Hunting and Cowboy Action Shooting, Parts are still available on a limited basis from. Fine quality pistol, exhibits high standards of Of course, walking around with fully-loaded and capped extra cylinders on your belt or in your pocket can be a bit dicey. Not to mention that shooting 58 Remington reproduction is just an absolute hoot. Replica Arms of El Paso, TX was started by L.F. Allen. Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Black Armi San Marco Reproduction 1858 Revolver One was an early 50s bolt-action Savage Sporter in .25-20, which would do everything at 125 yards you could reasonably expect from a good .22 at 50. Black powder is scary in the beginning. Number of bids and bid amounts may be slightly out of date. That means that two Colt Peacemakers coming off the line 1 minute apart (11:59PM on Dec 31 1898 and 12:00 AM on Jan 1, 19 99, define the force of the law. Theres something fun about putting the Glock 30 away and taking out the Peacemaker. Armi San Marco manufacturer overview However, I am 99% sure this is an Armi San Marco because my Armi San Marco cylinders cycle, time and lock perfectly in this pistol and THINNING VISIBLE ON BARREL NEAR MUZZLE. I've never had any problems with them. Armi San Marco is out of business. WebArmi San Marco Black Powder Revolvers Remington 1858 Army & Navy Parts List Sort by: Show Available 0 Schematic w/ Parts List 1 Barrel 2 Barrel Stud 3 Loading Lever Latch 4 Loading Lever Latch Spring 5 Latch Pin 6 Loading Lever 7 Loading Lever Link Pin 8 Loading Lever Link 9 Plunger 12 Loading Lever Screw 13 Base Pin 14 Cylinder 16 Bolt 17 Very good bore and chambers, with light corrosion present. February 24, 2015 in SASS Wire. The strong Remington frame made it fairly easy to convert the pistol over to metallic cartridge use, as firearms technology rapidly advanced after the Civil War. Grips for the Uberti 1873 Cattleman El Patron Grizzly Paw New Model as well as the 1860 and 1872 Colt army made by Cimarron, Pietta and Uberti. I got them from EMF. Fordyce Beals. An iron-sight Hawken at whatever range you can stay on a sheet of typing paper EVERY SHOT offhand is hunting. I just purchased an ASM replica of a 1858 Remington 44 and was wondering if anyone had any information about it. He would also GIVE to Government Officials, very fine engraved Pistols, beautifully engraved with Silver of Gold, to U.S. Just make sure that you compress the powder with the ball when you press it into the cylinder.
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